Little can you tell, but Feddygia actually has one of the best health-care plans available. And hunger is completely unheard of! Sure, you have to evade the state-endorsed packs of roving, raving maniacs that stalk the streets, but it’s not all bad!
Seriously, “Free Barbeque Tuesday”? Keith is the best evil overlord EVER. You didn’t see Sauron doing that, did you?
If I weren’t a vegetarian, I’d so be all over that. The only thing that would make this Feddystopia any juicier would be if this universe’s version of Cyndi were his queen.
Wait. Does this mean all of this stuff had to actually happen in an alternate future universe, just to smuggle the message “Absolutely do not trust Keith Feddyg, he cant even help” back to Faans Prime?
More like it had to happen in ONE of the alternate futures, since that’s the point of the alternate future. Because they are so VERY well aware of time travel, Hilda’s gift, and other things, they know that any future that turns out this badly probably isn’t the one for prime, and that they should post haste seek to do something to sort things out.
But this is an alternate future descended from a choice they made, based on something they must have done with Keith, and they chose to make that decision so they could retroactively see how it worked out. Is choosing to make a bad decision so you can avoid making it in the first place a good way to avoid pitfalls, or a good way to doom an alternate universe into a horrible fate? Multiversal ethics are tricky; and I’m not sure whether Ally!Prime or Ally!Doomed or neither or both can blamed for enabling Rape City, in any universe.
In other words, if it isn’t some kind of illusion, then this still actually *happened* for those people in the other timeline. That’s kind of irresponsible.
I THINK this comic follows that Multiverse model of every possible scenario co-existing simultaneously (infinite paralel paths), as opposed to that other model of tangents being created every time someone messes with history as we know it, like in Back to the future (a path that branches). I’m not 100% sure, though
And Feddyg? Bedridden people tied to vertical beds with barbwire? Did you actually liked that awful Silent Hill movie that much? You are beyond help
No, really, I want someone to tell me! The guy’s literally a worthless sack with no power other than the ability to lie. Every time there is any interaction with him it ALWAYS ends the same way. “Oh, I (can’t do that)/(never knew)/(was just messing with you).”
Why does everyone keep acting like he might be able to help with anything? Even if he could, he wouldn’t.
@Xel Unknown: They’re dedicating 3 members of the team on this “long shot” AND had a meeting about it. It’s not like this is just one shot amongst a bunch of pellets. This is the only other solution we’ve seen them try besides the mind-swap.
We know FreddyG’s a very weak mage (have we even seen him cast a spell without stealing magic from someone else?). We know he tricked the other mages into letting him join. He is a known con artist that has never been able to do anything on his own. His only real ability seems to be to make everyone around him become super-gullible and have memory lost about the last time he fooled them.
Why are they wasting all these resources on him when they could be searching out other, more reliable, mages that ACTUALLY KNOW MAGIC!?!
@James: Seems like this is not a fantasy of Feddyg, but the world we saw a while back, the one where the HoJ already won – which is what prompted Nice!Maxie and the other time-travellers to come back and warn Aegis. So in a way this already happened and there’s not much they can do about it other than warn their past selves.
Speaking of that, the time travellers also mentioned some (like Baxter) survived and are in hiding in their future, some clearly died (Will), while others disappeared…Hilda being among the latter…so I think in the last panel Ally is speaking to THAT Hilda, but the one who managed to catch the message was Present!Hilda.
…what do you mean, “that doesn’t make any sense”? Gimme a break, time travel is complicated enough ithout taking Hilda’s Uatu-the-Watcher-like powers into account.
@5ColorControl: Well, it’s not like they even know many mages. Jared had to enlist Charlotte‘s help against Feddyg back then, and she looked almost uncontrollable (and almost killed Baxter in a fit of pyromania while he was inside that library)
@Locke: Actually, Feddyg instituted cloning and that’s people constructing a building out of their own corpses.
…More actually, “what’s outside the window” is kind of a rorschach test, innit? My guess is it was intended to just be half-destroyed buildings, but…yeah.
Quantum Mechanics, iirc. Every major possible choice leads to a splitting of the timeline.
So there’s a number of timelines in which they decided to trust Feddyg and this is the outcome. (And one of those timelines also lead to the timeline from which the Future Faans with General Penny came from.)
So you could pin it on Ally!Doomed, but not on Ally!Prime, seeing how the latter hasn’t made a final decision yet.
So by avoiding the Feddyg timeline, they also prevent the Future Faans timeline from becoming the fixed one for the Prime universe. Still does nothing to deal with the HoJ at this time.
And it also doesn’t prevent a differing timeline in which the HoJ simply takes over anyway. But the main point for the Future Faans is to ensure that their present doesn’t become the future for the Prime universe.
Oh they may think they’re changing their own past, but that’s not possible. At best you create a differing timeline.
No different from Days of Future Past/Days of Future Present. While those timelines were prevented from becoming the fate of the 616 universe, they still exist nonetheless, just as Earth-811.
@Buhzim I’d take a library on fire over FreddyG doing magic on Rikk any day of the week.
Also, I’m not even convinced FreddyG is a mage. When has he used magic (or done anything) ON HIS OWN?
My memory is not perfect so maybe I just don’t remember…. but I don’t remember.
I’m shocked and amazed. It’s One More Day-Fans Edition, and I’ve got the feeling that you’re going to show us how it’s supposed to be done. Right this time. Thank you.
I do realize now that those could be ruins outside the windows, but, then again, I can still see an orgy, too. Maybe that says more about me than anything else.
And *FEDDYG* (cough, cough) doesn’t seem to be the greatest mage, true. If anything, he’s a sadist who is incredibly lucky and has gotten great villainous opportunities. But it’s all about the attitude of a villain, sometimes, and that’s where Feddyg scores it. I don’t like his background, his power is up to debate, but he sure knows how to be a megalomaniac, and an entertaining one at that.
Fractal decision-based multiverses are kind of depressing. Think about it.
Somewhere out there, there is a universe where every good decision that you have ever made in your life, you chose badly and made things worse. There’s a universe out there where you didn’t see the baby climbing out onto the balcony. There’s a universe out there where you didn’t hit your brakes in time. There’s a universe where you didn’t listen to your doctor and miscarried just like he warned you about. There’s a universe out there where you didn’t take the keys away from your brother when he was too drunk to drive.
There’s a universe out there where you said the wrong words at the wrong time and lost her forever.
Maybe it’s this one. Maybe this is the universe where you made all the mistakes. Which means that somewhere out there, for every mistake you ever made in your life, is a universe where you DIDN’T make that mistake. Somewhere out there is a perfect you, who has never done anything wrong in their life, and is better than you in every way. Somewhere out there is a you that took the chance, that passed the test, that got the dream job. That broke up with him before things got ugly. That took the keys away. That saw the tragedy before it happened. That didn’t go jogging that morning in the park. That remembered to say I love you that one last time before he was gone forever. That had a chance to say I’m sorry. That had a chance to say goodbye.
Somewhere out there is a you that said the right words, and she didn’t leave you. Somewhere out there, she still loves you. But not you – a different version of you that was stronger or smarter or wittier or thinner, or just knew how to say the right thing at the right time. Somewhere out there, you are better than you will ever be. And that version of you has everything you ever wanted.
I have to give mad props to the last week of illustration. Totally knocked out of the park a level of setting far beyond what this comic usually entails. Very very good work.
The problem is, we can’t be entirely sure how this universe comes to be. Maybe this one can only come into existence BECAUSE of Hilda viewing it. A self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts. Even if they kill Feddyg to try and prevent this, there’s no assurance that he’ll STAY dead.
It’s hard to tell which path you’re on, and unless you can see all the twists and turns leading to it, it can be near impossible to avoid the path you don’t want (a la Homestuck).
Combining abattoir and barbeque in the same sentence, now that’s just wrong.
In his defense, he meant the abbattoir to be an apartment complex.
Nothing wrong with combining abattoir with barbecue, except when you know that Feddyg’s abattoir is almost certainly not butchering pigs.
Little can you tell, but Feddygia actually has one of the best health-care plans available. And hunger is completely unheard of! Sure, you have to evade the state-endorsed packs of roving, raving maniacs that stalk the streets, but it’s not all bad!
Seriously, “Free Barbeque Tuesday”? Keith is the best evil overlord EVER. You didn’t see Sauron doing that, did you?
If I weren’t a vegetarian, I’d so be all over that. The only thing that would make this Feddystopia any juicier would be if this universe’s version of Cyndi were his queen.
I gotta be honest: I had to google “abattoir” to see what it meant. Now I’m sad.
And no one’s paying attention to the fact Ally just gave Hilda information from a non-existant future universe? Geez, this comic’s awesome.
Ooo Hilda looks like she wants to murder someone <_<;
Wait. Does this mean all of this stuff had to actually happen in an alternate future universe, just to smuggle the message “Absolutely do not trust Keith Feddyg, he cant even help” back to Faans Prime?
Somehow, I feel like a line has been crossed.
More like it had to happen in ONE of the alternate futures, since that’s the point of the alternate future. Because they are so VERY well aware of time travel, Hilda’s gift, and other things, they know that any future that turns out this badly probably isn’t the one for prime, and that they should post haste seek to do something to sort things out.
Tentacle shirt.
That is all.
But this is an alternate future descended from a choice they made, based on something they must have done with Keith, and they chose to make that decision so they could retroactively see how it worked out. Is choosing to make a bad decision so you can avoid making it in the first place a good way to avoid pitfalls, or a good way to doom an alternate universe into a horrible fate? Multiversal ethics are tricky; and I’m not sure whether Ally!Prime or Ally!Doomed or neither or both can blamed for enabling Rape City, in any universe.
In other words, if it isn’t some kind of illusion, then this still actually *happened* for those people in the other timeline. That’s kind of irresponsible.
Anyone else notice what seems to be an orgy going on outside the windows?
Man, when I said he’s the best evil overlord, I was right on the bullseye. Keith Feddyg for president, 2012!
Re: Last panel:
Ally, you ROCK.
Ah, but now they know not to make that decision, this alternate timeline has been nulled out… right?
@James & @ Midnight Lurker
I THINK this comic follows that Multiverse model of every possible scenario co-existing simultaneously (infinite paralel paths), as opposed to that other model of tangents being created every time someone messes with history as we know it, like in Back to the future (a path that branches). I’m not 100% sure, though
And Feddyg? Bedridden people tied to vertical beds with barbwire? Did you actually liked that awful Silent Hill movie that much? You are beyond help
Why are people still listening to FreddyG?
No, really, I want someone to tell me! The guy’s literally a worthless sack with no power other than the ability to lie. Every time there is any interaction with him it ALWAYS ends the same way. “Oh, I (can’t do that)/(never knew)/(was just messing with you).”
Why does everyone keep acting like he might be able to help with anything? Even if he could, he wouldn’t.
@5ColorControl: They’re looking for an answer and ANY possable shot in saving Rikk’s life is one they’re going to try no matter how likely it’ll work.
@Locke: Totally agree… When it comes to Evil Overlords. This dude is one I respect. Though personally don’t ever wish to live in… That world…
@Xel Unknown: They’re dedicating 3 members of the team on this “long shot” AND had a meeting about it. It’s not like this is just one shot amongst a bunch of pellets. This is the only other solution we’ve seen them try besides the mind-swap.
We know FreddyG’s a very weak mage (have we even seen him cast a spell without stealing magic from someone else?). We know he tricked the other mages into letting him join. He is a known con artist that has never been able to do anything on his own. His only real ability seems to be to make everyone around him become super-gullible and have memory lost about the last time he fooled them.
Why are they wasting all these resources on him when they could be searching out other, more reliable, mages that ACTUALLY KNOW MAGIC!?!
Feddyg seems to think in a very similar way to General Tarquin from Order of the Stick.
“Well yeah, they might cast me down one day but until then I get to enjoy the best ride ever”
@James: Seems like this is not a fantasy of Feddyg, but the world we saw a while back, the one where the HoJ already won – which is what prompted Nice!Maxie and the other time-travellers to come back and warn Aegis. So in a way this already happened and there’s not much they can do about it other than warn their past selves.
Speaking of that, the time travellers also mentioned some (like Baxter) survived and are in hiding in their future, some clearly died (Will), while others disappeared…Hilda being among the latter…so I think in the last panel Ally is speaking to THAT Hilda, but the one who managed to catch the message was Present!Hilda.
…what do you mean, “that doesn’t make any sense”? Gimme a break, time travel is complicated enough ithout taking Hilda’s Uatu-the-Watcher-like powers into account.
@5ColorControl: Well, it’s not like they even know many mages. Jared had to enlist Charlotte‘s help against Feddyg back then, and she looked almost uncontrollable (and almost killed Baxter in a fit of pyromania while he was inside that library)
@Locke: Actually, Feddyg instituted cloning and that’s people constructing a building out of their own corpses.
…More actually, “what’s outside the window” is kind of a rorschach test, innit? My guess is it was intended to just be half-destroyed buildings, but…yeah.
@James
Quantum Mechanics, iirc. Every major possible choice leads to a splitting of the timeline.
So there’s a number of timelines in which they decided to trust Feddyg and this is the outcome. (And one of those timelines also lead to the timeline from which the Future Faans with General Penny came from.)
So you could pin it on Ally!Doomed, but not on Ally!Prime, seeing how the latter hasn’t made a final decision yet.
So by avoiding the Feddyg timeline, they also prevent the Future Faans timeline from becoming the fixed one for the Prime universe. Still does nothing to deal with the HoJ at this time.
And it also doesn’t prevent a differing timeline in which the HoJ simply takes over anyway. But the main point for the Future Faans is to ensure that their present doesn’t become the future for the Prime universe.
Oh they may think they’re changing their own past, but that’s not possible. At best you create a differing timeline.
No different from Days of Future Past/Days of Future Present. While those timelines were prevented from becoming the fate of the 616 universe, they still exist nonetheless, just as Earth-811.
@Buhzim I’d take a library on fire over FreddyG doing magic on Rikk any day of the week.
Also, I’m not even convinced FreddyG is a mage. When has he used magic (or done anything) ON HIS OWN?
My memory is not perfect so maybe I just don’t remember…. but I don’t remember.
I’m shocked and amazed. It’s One More Day-Fans Edition, and I’ve got the feeling that you’re going to show us how it’s supposed to be done. Right this time. Thank you.
I do realize now that those could be ruins outside the windows, but, then again, I can still see an orgy, too. Maybe that says more about me than anything else.
And *FEDDYG* (cough, cough) doesn’t seem to be the greatest mage, true. If anything, he’s a sadist who is incredibly lucky and has gotten great villainous opportunities. But it’s all about the attitude of a villain, sometimes, and that’s where Feddyg scores it. I don’t like his background, his power is up to debate, but he sure knows how to be a megalomaniac, and an entertaining one at that.
Fractal decision-based multiverses are kind of depressing. Think about it.
Somewhere out there, there is a universe where every good decision that you have ever made in your life, you chose badly and made things worse. There’s a universe out there where you didn’t see the baby climbing out onto the balcony. There’s a universe out there where you didn’t hit your brakes in time. There’s a universe where you didn’t listen to your doctor and miscarried just like he warned you about. There’s a universe out there where you didn’t take the keys away from your brother when he was too drunk to drive.
There’s a universe out there where you said the wrong words at the wrong time and lost her forever.
Maybe it’s this one. Maybe this is the universe where you made all the mistakes. Which means that somewhere out there, for every mistake you ever made in your life, is a universe where you DIDN’T make that mistake. Somewhere out there is a perfect you, who has never done anything wrong in their life, and is better than you in every way. Somewhere out there is a you that took the chance, that passed the test, that got the dream job. That broke up with him before things got ugly. That took the keys away. That saw the tragedy before it happened. That didn’t go jogging that morning in the park. That remembered to say I love you that one last time before he was gone forever. That had a chance to say I’m sorry. That had a chance to say goodbye.
Somewhere out there is a you that said the right words, and she didn’t leave you. Somewhere out there, she still loves you. But not you – a different version of you that was stronger or smarter or wittier or thinner, or just knew how to say the right thing at the right time. Somewhere out there, you are better than you will ever be. And that version of you has everything you ever wanted.
…Wait. That version of me is still “me”, so “I” am still awesome, in a sense.
SCREW LOGIC, I HAVE OPTIMISM
I have to give mad props to the last week of illustration. Totally knocked out of the park a level of setting far beyond what this comic usually entails. Very very good work.
See, what’s really interesting about that theory is that, on average, that makes everyone and everything the exact same.
I’m really hoping that an alt-version of me ends up to be a megalomaniac dictator. It’d be even better if he changed his name to “Caligula”.
@Beachfox
Thanks. Granted, Fans! has always had a somewhat minimalist, stark style, the occassional splash page allows for a little more detail.
@IS_Wolf
The problem is, we can’t be entirely sure how this universe comes to be. Maybe this one can only come into existence BECAUSE of Hilda viewing it. A self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts. Even if they kill Feddyg to try and prevent this, there’s no assurance that he’ll STAY dead.
It’s hard to tell which path you’re on, and unless you can see all the twists and turns leading to it, it can be near impossible to avoid the path you don’t want (a la Homestuck).