It _IS_ interesting to guess how much of Rikk’s reaction is real, and how much is just real convenient. With most people, it would be a no-brainer, but with Rikk…
Rikk is like Captain Carrot.
He’s simple.
That doesn’t mean he’s -stupid-.
And it’s impossible to tell what’s him being Rikk and what’s him being… simple but not stupid.
Rikk has been getting a LOT more crafty recently. I’d say it’s not just the experience leading, but the Worthington Syndrome as well. He’s really changed a lot since his infection showed up.
i didn’t think anyone else remembered captain carrot. still this proves Rikk is rikk. he still wants to save everyone even his enemies if he can but keeping animal in a cage to milk him for the cure for most of his life doesn’t really sound like him.
Yeah, me too I get the impression that this is how Rikk actually wants to freak out in such a situation. That he couldn’t let himself do in his old position. And that he specifically uses here as a means to influence Bellhop and get things done.
It’s sad that Soulson/Bellhop doesn’t seem to have developed emotionally since his last visit, but I guess that’s what happens when you’re a half-human hybrid raised by non-humans, especially when said non-humans are fundamentally different from any terrestrial lifeform.
e_voyager: Even Rikk will make the tradeoff of killing someone to save millions of lives (see The General), not to mention he did specifically say he’d want to keep Animal in “Humane Conditions.”
Ghoti: Solson is also, what, 7 years old? Kids learn empathy through experience…Rikk is providing (an accelerated version of) that experience.
@Beachfox: Good comparison. Like Carrot, Rikk believes in people doing the right thing because it is the right thing to do. And that kind of belief always makes people want to live up to it.
@ e_voyager: Just looking at the way that others have been kept in humane conditions, you know that Animal would have been well taken care of and treated better than his teammates treated him. And helped.
Helping each other is what it means to be part of a species?
Depends on the species. I seem to recall that some species could only survive by being aggressive and shunning their kin.
@Danny in Canada i’ve never read / seen disk world so i’m at a loss there
@Threy if i remember correctly it was Rumy and Katheryn who killed the general (by keeping her distracted and dropping a time machine on her) not Rikk though i guess i should reread the archives to be sure.
@Rowan yes your probably right about that especially considering how nice Freddy G’s cell was and Rikk and the others really had a reason to hate him.
Rikk is being more slickly manipulative than we’ve ever seen him before, I think.
never mind that Bellhop is technically his stepson.
well played indeed.
@e_voyager Do yourself a favor and read the Discworld books they are incredible. If you are interested in Carrot start with Guards Guards. The Author is Terry Prachett.
Sadly Sir Terry is someone who could use some of that blood that Rick is so upset about loosing…
I agree with those that think this is a genuine reaction from Rick that he is using to it’s best advantage.
Oh, I’m sure he’s pissed. But he’s still playing this situation to his advantage.
That’s the thing about Rikk – his words are his main and best weapon, and if you notice here, everything he says, while valid, is all centered around bringing Soulson over to his side. First, by establishing that Aegis is not the bad guy here, and that Rikk would do the best thing for everyone involved no matter what, and second, by presenting a way for Soulson to be a part of that.
It’s not that his feelings aren’t genuine, but every word he says is still completely calculated here.
e_voyager keeping animal in a cage to milk him for the cure for most of his life doesn’t really sound like him.
If Animal was some innocent schmuck who just _happened_ to have healing blood, you’d be right. But he isn’t, he is part of an alien invasion dedicated to supplanting and exterminating humanity. Hell, their very first encounter, Aegis attempted to free Animal from captivity, and the Hand “thanked” them by attacking. All things considered, a humane captivity combined with blood-donations as reparations seems quite in character for Rikk.
Rikk, you are a BASTARD.
I approve.
A crafty, crafty bastard. “No way to get it off this island,” eh?
Well played.
there’s… no way they’re getting to Shanna in time, is there? No, probably not.
Rikk is a Master tactician. Well played sir, well played.
Nice.
A part of me wonders how much of this is planned and how much of it is Rikk actually freaking out over it.
Somehow I think an experience leader like Rikk is using his freak out in service of a plan.
It _IS_ interesting to guess how much of Rikk’s reaction is real, and how much is just real convenient. With most people, it would be a no-brainer, but with Rikk…
Rikk is like Captain Carrot.
He’s simple.
That doesn’t mean he’s -stupid-.
And it’s impossible to tell what’s him being Rikk and what’s him being… simple but not stupid.
@Beachfox: *Thumbs up* A good comparison!
Rikk has been getting a LOT more crafty recently. I’d say it’s not just the experience leading, but the Worthington Syndrome as well. He’s really changed a lot since his infection showed up.
i didn’t think anyone else remembered captain carrot. still this proves Rikk is rikk. he still wants to save everyone even his enemies if he can but keeping animal in a cage to milk him for the cure for most of his life doesn’t really sound like him.
Now, that is how you lay an epic level guilt trip.
Yeah, me too I get the impression that this is how Rikk actually wants to freak out in such a situation. That he couldn’t let himself do in his old position. And that he specifically uses here as a means to influence Bellhop and get things done.
@Beachfox: Another thumbs up from me.
It’s sad that Soulson/Bellhop doesn’t seem to have developed emotionally since his last visit, but I guess that’s what happens when you’re a half-human hybrid raised by non-humans, especially when said non-humans are fundamentally different from any terrestrial lifeform.
e_voyager – you’re thinking of Rodney Rabbit from Earth-C, but the others are talking about Carrot Ironfoundersson from the Discworld.
e_voyager: Even Rikk will make the tradeoff of killing someone to save millions of lives (see The General), not to mention he did specifically say he’d want to keep Animal in “Humane Conditions.”
Ghoti: Solson is also, what, 7 years old? Kids learn empathy through experience…Rikk is providing (an accelerated version of) that experience.
@Beachfox: Good comparison. Like Carrot, Rikk believes in people doing the right thing because it is the right thing to do. And that kind of belief always makes people want to live up to it.
@ e_voyager: Just looking at the way that others have been kept in humane conditions, you know that Animal would have been well taken care of and treated better than his teammates treated him. And helped.
Helping each other is what it means to be part of a species?
Depends on the species. I seem to recall that some species could only survive by being aggressive and shunning their kin.
@Danny in Canada i’ve never read / seen disk world so i’m at a loss there
@Threy if i remember correctly it was Rumy and Katheryn who killed the general (by keeping her distracted and dropping a time machine on her) not Rikk though i guess i should reread the archives to be sure.
@Rowan yes your probably right about that especially considering how nice Freddy G’s cell was and Rikk and the others really had a reason to hate him.
Rikk is being more slickly manipulative than we’ve ever seen him before, I think.
never mind that Bellhop is technically his stepson.
well played indeed.
Interesting that everyone leaps to Rikk playing a weird Batman Gambit… I think it might be possible he is genuinely pissed.
Nice! I was hoping that’s why Rikk was upset yesterday. Glad to hear he hasn’t forgotten about all of those cancer patients Ally’s been treating…
What happens to Jesse’s multiple selves if he gets in contact with that blood?
@e_voyager Do yourself a favor and read the Discworld books they are incredible. If you are interested in Carrot start with Guards Guards. The Author is Terry Prachett.
Sadly Sir Terry is someone who could use some of that blood that Rick is so upset about loosing…
I agree with those that think this is a genuine reaction from Rick that he is using to it’s best advantage.
@Lis
Oh, I’m sure he’s pissed. But he’s still playing this situation to his advantage.
That’s the thing about Rikk – his words are his main and best weapon, and if you notice here, everything he says, while valid, is all centered around bringing Soulson over to his side. First, by establishing that Aegis is not the bad guy here, and that Rikk would do the best thing for everyone involved no matter what, and second, by presenting a way for Soulson to be a part of that.
It’s not that his feelings aren’t genuine, but every word he says is still completely calculated here.
e_voyager
keeping animal in a cage to milk him for the cure for most of his life doesn’t really sound like him.
If Animal was some innocent schmuck who just _happened_ to have healing blood, you’d be right. But he isn’t, he is part of an alien invasion dedicated to supplanting and exterminating humanity. Hell, their very first encounter, Aegis attempted to free Animal from captivity, and the Hand “thanked” them by attacking. All things considered, a humane captivity combined with blood-donations as reparations seems quite in character for Rikk.